tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6207200414495313452.post2881878467299859789..comments2023-10-10T12:46:47.186-04:00Comments on The Green Weenie: Be still, my heartUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6207200414495313452.post-19981496099685825652008-06-20T00:47:00.000-04:002008-06-20T00:47:00.000-04:00Great point, Ron. Well said.Great point, Ron. Well said.WilliamJPellashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12774466220683142262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6207200414495313452.post-80793434970047483502008-06-18T18:22:00.000-04:002008-06-18T18:22:00.000-04:00Risk runs both ways, Will. The Bucs just signed S...Risk runs both ways, Will. The Bucs just signed Snell and Sanchez, so...Ron Ieracihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08784507810080514099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6207200414495313452.post-15555546886104654082008-06-17T21:23:00.000-04:002008-06-17T21:23:00.000-04:00One note of caution, though, regarding any veteran...One note of caution, though, regarding any veterans-for-kids trades. Dejan Kovacevic had a great piece in the P-G recently in which he detailed the numerous failures of almost every similar trade the Pirates tried over the past decade and change. Only Jason Schmidt ever really worked out among the numerous players we got in exchange for our veterans like Denny Neagle, Jeff King, Jay Bell, and many others. There were a couple other guys who ended up as semi-useful spare parts / bench players. But that's about it. <BR/><BR/>That said, the Schmidt trade also included another guy who almost certainly would have been an All-Star had he not gotten hurt, and that was Ron Wright. Wright was by all accounts a monster, a legendary minor league slugger who was a close to a sure thing as you could find anywhere in the minors. Too bad, we'll never know what might have been. <BR/><BR/>Again, though, Dejan's warning is totally apropos. While I would like our chances in a trade where we'd receive some of the Rays' top minor leaguers, there's no guarantee they'd be productive big leaguers going forward. There IS some risk!WilliamJPellashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12774466220683142262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6207200414495313452.post-16734991170989196022008-06-17T07:14:00.000-04:002008-06-17T07:14:00.000-04:00No question that a strong package would bring in m...No question that a strong package would bring in more than individual deals would, Will. We haven't really followed what other teams needs; there's enough holes here to that need addressed, hehe.<BR/>We're not really sure how much of the brass' heart is into dealing yet as it is into signing the draftees, especially Alvarz and Scheppers, since Boras and the Bucs have gone to the mattress regarding negotiations. The money spent on them will determine how many of the other upside guys we chose will be affordable.<BR/>But when they do deal, a blockbuster will certainly result in a bigger haul than individual sell-offs.Ron Ieracihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08784507810080514099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6207200414495313452.post-80575401531516913842008-06-16T21:19:00.000-04:002008-06-16T21:19:00.000-04:00Agreed completely that Nady should be the first Pi...Agreed completely that Nady should be the first Pirates veteran to be traded, NOT Bay. Much as I like "X", he's probably at his peak right now, and unquestionably not worth the money he'll demand because Darth Sidious-Emperor Palpatine-Scott Boras is his agent. Sorry, X-Man, thanks for the good performance, but you're worth more to us as trade bait. <BR/><BR/>Speaking of which, I've been beating the drum for a Nady-Marte package deal for some time now. Think a good veteran professional bat like Nady who has also been better than advertised defensively, along with one of the better lefty relievers in all of baseball, think that combo would tempt any number of contenders? How many good minor league prospects would be coming our way in exchange for those two going to, say, the Angels or the Rays? <BR/><BR/>Answer: a bunch. I bet we could get 4 good double to triple A guys, and more than that if we wanted to take some class-A players. I'm not a big advocate of going THAT low in the minors, BTW, I'm just throwing the numbers out there. But I'd be quite happy to get 4 of another organization's good prospects in exchange for Nady and Marte. That would mean that at least a couple could step right in and play the rest of the season in Pittsburgh, and the other 2 would be here to stay by 2010 at the latest. Yes indeed, I'd take that!WilliamJPellashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12774466220683142262noreply@blogger.com